陈牧：楚霸王项羽，世之英雄也，然兵败于垓下，自刎于乌江，折于刘邦之手，何也？先生教我。
萧凡：臣以为汉高祖，山东之匹夫也，无有咫尺之土，十室之聚，然能任天下之智力，举大体而不苛，故王天下，莫之能御也。项羽，楚之世将，有重于民，横行天下，然而卒死东城者，何也？有一范增不能用，意忌多疑，不信大臣故也。宽则得众用，贤则多功，信则人归之，愿大王鉴之。
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。
chenmu：TheoverlordXiangYuwasagreathero，buthewasdefeatedandmittedsuicide，Intheend，helosttoLiuBang，andIwasverynfusedaboutthis，Sirtaughtmewhy？
xiaofan：Ithink，LiuBangisagrassdwellerinShandongwhohasnothing，Buthewasgoodatappointingthewisdomofothers，Andheonlyfocusesonthegeneralthingsandisnotharsh，Therefore，hecanwintheworld，andnoonecanparewithhim。XiangYu‘sfamilywasallhonorablegeneralsoftheChuState，Hewasvaluedbythepeopleandwonnumerousvictories，Butwhatwasthereasonheendedupfailing？HehadaunselorFanZeng，butuldnotappointhim，Hewassuspiciousanddidnottrustothers，That‘stherootcause，Bybeingtolerantofothers，youcangettheirsupport，Appointtheirwisdomandyouwillbeabletobuildmerit，Givethemtrustandtheywillsu
endertoyou，Ihopeyoulearnfromthat。
chenmu:Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。
陈牧：寡人以信义治天下，而臣民不信，何也？先生教我。
萧凡：臣以为，欲人之信己，则微言而笃行之，笃行之，则用日久，用日久，则事著明，事著明，则有目者莫不见也，有耳者莫不闻也，其可诬乎？故根深而枝叶茂，行久而名誉远。
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。
chenmu：Igoverntheuntrywithsincerityandrighteousness，butthepeopledonotbelieve，Sirtaughtmewhy？
xiaofan：Ithink，Ifyouwantotherstobelieveyou，youhavetobensistentwithyourwordsanddeeds，Andkeeptryingtodoit，Overtime，theresultswillslowlyemerge，Peoplehaveearsandeyesandtheywilldistinguishbetweentrueandfalse，Soyoudon‘tgetawaywithit，Therootsofthetreegrowdeeper，andtheleaveswillflourish，Onlyifyoupersistindoingthisforalongtimecanyougetthehonor。
chenmu:Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。
陈牧：寡人欲以信义布天下，可乎？先生以为如何？
萧凡：臣以为大王圣明，夫信由上而结者也。故君以信训其臣，则臣以信忠其君；父以信诲其子，则子以信孝其父；夫以信先其妇，则妇以信顺其夫。上秉常以化下，下服常而应上。其不化者，百未有一也。夫为人上，竭至诚，开信以待下，则怀信者欢然而乐进，不信者赧然而回意矣。
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人受教矣。
chenmu：Iwanttospreadintegrityandrighteousnesstotheworld，Sirwhatdoyouthink？
xiaofan：Ithinkit‘swiseforyoutodothat，Thepromotionofthismatteristostartwithyou，Thekingtreatshisministerswithintegrity，Thentheministerswouldshowloyaltytotheking，Thefathereducateshissonwithintegrity，thenthesonwillbefilialtotheparents，Ifthehusbandtreatshiswifewithintegrity，thenthewifewillbesubmissivetohim，Ifthekingwantstoeducatetheworld，hemustsetanexampleforthepeoplehimself，Thekingtreatsotherswithintegrityandsincerity，Peopleallovertheworldwillfollowyourexample，Eveninsincerepeoplewillslowlychange。
chenmu:Sirisright，Iacceptyourteachings。
陈牧：今党项、契丹交媾，寡人欲杀其使者，可乎？先生以为如何？
萧凡：臣以为，党项与我素无怨雠，为契丹所使耳。今杀一人，结怨一国，非计也。放之必悦，不复为契丹用矣，愿大王察之。
陈牧：先生之言甚善，寡人谨受教。
chenmu：NowtherearesignsofunitybetweentheDangxiangandtheKhitans，SoIwantedtokillthemessengerofthedangxiang，Sirwhatdoyouthink？
xiaofan：Ithink，Thereisnotmuchhatredbetweenthedangxiangandus，TheywereonlyusedbytheKhitans，Ifyoukillthemessenger，youwillhaveavendettaagainstauntry，Thereisnobenefittodoingso，Ifyoureleasethemessenger，andthedangxiangwillbegratefultous，ThentheiroperationwiththeKhitanwentbankrupt，Ihopeyouwillnsiderthisapproach。
chenmu:Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。
陈牧：寡人愿闻，礼之为物何用？先生教我。
萧凡：臣以为礼之为物大矣！用之于身，则动静有法而百行备焉；用之于家，则内外有别而九族睦焉；用之于乡，则长幼有伦而俗化美焉；用之于国，则君臣有叙而政治成焉；用之于天下，则诸侯顺服而纪纲正焉。
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人受教矣。
chenmu：Iwonderwhattheroleofetiquetteis，Sirtaughtme。
xiaofan：Ithinktheroleofetiquetteistoogreat，Useitonyourself，Thenthebehaviorwillbe
ectandtherewillbeabasisfordoinganything，Useitathome，Thenitwilldistinguishbetweenthenearandfa
elativesand
ingthefamilyintoharmony，Usetotowns，Thentheelderlywillberespected，childrenwillbeloved，andthesocialatmospherewillbeebetter，Usetotheuntry，Thenthekingsandministersareinorderandtheuntryiswellgoverned，Useitallovertheworld，Thenotheruntrieswillalsosu
enderandwillnotbenfused。
chenmu:Sirisright，Iacceptyourteachings。
陈牧：寡人今来多有过失，我欲掩之，可乎？先生以为如何？
萧凡：臣以为过者，人之所必不免也，惟圣贤为能知而改之。古之圣王，患其有过而不自知也，故设诽谤之木，置敢谏之鼓，岂畏百姓之闻其过哉！是以仲虺美成汤曰：“改过不吝。”由是观之，则为人君者，固不以无过为贤，而以改过为美也。
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人知过矣。
chenmu：I‘vemadealotofmistakeslately，soIwanttoveritup，Sirwhatdoyouthink？
xiaofan：Ithinkeveryonemakesmistakes，Itisdifficulttoavoidit，Onlyasaintwilladmithismistakeand
ectit，Thewisekingsofthepastwereafraidthattheywouldnotregnizethemiftheyhadmadeamistake，Sohesetupplanksanddrumsticksinordertogetotherstoremindhim，Sotheyarenotafraidthatotherswillknowthattheyhavemademistakes，Aslongasitcanbe
ectedintime，Don‘tthinkthatkingsarenotallowedtomakemistakes，itisgoodto
ectitintime，Soyoudon‘tneedtoveritup。
chenmu:Sirisright，Iwaswrong。
陈牧：寡人闻，仓廪实而知礼节，衣食足而知荣辱，何也？先生教我。
萧凡：臣以为，民不足而可治者，自古及今，未之闻也。古之人曰：‘一夫不耕，或受之饥；一女不织，或受之寒。’生之有时而用之无度，则物力必屈。古之治天下，至纤至悉，故其畜积足恃。今背本而趋末者甚众，是天下之大残也！淫侈之俗，日日以长，是天下之大贼也！残、贼公行，莫之或止；大命将泛，莫之振救。生之者甚少而靡之者甚多，天下财产何得不蹶。
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。
chenmu：Iheard，Onlywhenyouhavesavingswillyouknowetiquette，Onlywhenyouhaveeatenenoughwillyouknowthehonoranddisgrace，Sirtaughtmewhy？
xiaofan：Ithink，Sinceancienttimes，thepeoplehavenotobeyedthemanagementiftheyhavenotenoughtoeat，Theprove
saysthatifyoudon‘tfarm，youwillbehungryandyouwon‘tweaveclothandyouwillbeld，Timeislimitedbutdesireisendless，soitisdifficulttosatisfygreed，Inthepast，governingtheworldwassimpleandsimple，Savingscanalsomeetpeople‘sneeds，Nowmostpeoplegointobusinessandpeoplebeeextravagantandpromiscuous，Thisdisruptssocialstabilityandharmony，It‘shardtostop，Whatisproducedcannotsatisfyman‘sdesires，Thesituationisworsenowthanyouask。
chenmu:Sirisright，Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。